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Hello, and welcome back.

If you've ever felt that uncomfortable knot in your stomach when a partner comes home late, or that pang when a colleague lands the promotion you were hoping for, then you've met our topic for today — jealousy.

In this episode of the Sex and Relationships podcast, Aileen and I have an honest, warm, and hopefully illuminating conversation about what jealousy actually is, where it comes from, and crucially what you can do about it. If you haven't listened yet, do go and find it at thesexandrelationshipspodcast.com.  This blog is a companion to that conversation; something to sit with, reflect on, and come back to whenever those green-eyed feelings show up.

 

 

Jealousy and Envy — Are They the Same Thing?

A lot of us use the words jealousy and envy interchangeably, and there's no shame in that as the two are closely related. But there is a useful distinction worth getting clear on: when you feel jealous, you want to keep what you have. When you feel envious, you want what someone else has.

Simple as that sounds, it matters. Jealousy is about protection of a relationship, a position, a sense of belonging. It tends to show up when something we value feels under threat. Envy is more about longing for what someone else seems to have that we don't.

The two often walk in together. But naming which one you're actually feeling is a good first step.

It's Just a Feeling — But That Doesn't Make It Easy

One of the most important things Aileen and I explore in this episode is the idea that jealousy is, fundamentally, an emotion just like sadness, frustration, or joy. It's information, not a character flaw. It's not proof that something is terribly wrong with you.

And yet, jealousy carries a lot of taboo. We are not supposed to feel it. Nice people don't feel jealous. Secure people definitely don't feel jealous. So when it arrives, often quietly, sometimes like a flood, we tend to push it down. We tell ourselves we're being ridiculous and try to distract ourselves. Often we direct our upset outwards at a partner or a colleague, because that feels easier than sitting with the feeling itself.

The problem is that a suppressed feeling doesn't disappear. It just finds other ways out through behaviour, through distance, through arguments that are really about something else entirely.

Aileen speaks beautifully about her experience of professional jealousy after drama school watching peers get agents and auditions while others stayed quiet about their own progress, not wanting to trigger those painful feelings in others. The jealousy was real, and it was completely understandable. But it took work to get to a place of acknowledging it without shame.

Where Does Jealousy Actually Come From?

Jealousy is often rooted in low self-esteem and a fear of loss. When our sense of worth is tied to external things like a relationship, a job or our place in a group we become vulnerable. If any of those things feel threatened, jealousy steps in.

I describe how in intimate relationships especially, this can create a kind of emotional entanglement. If your sense of safety depends on your partner's constant attention and devotion, then any shift in their behaviour such as a late night, a new hobby, a friend you don't know can feel like a withdrawal of that security. The jealousy is trying to tell you something, but what it's pointing to is rarely about them.

At its heart, jealousy is almost always about validation. It says: I am looking outside of myself for evidence of my own worth.

When we can start to see that, really see it, something shifts.

Three Kinds of Jealousy

It can be helpful to break jealousy into three categories to understand better what you're dealing with:

Reactive jealousy - This is a response to something real like a partner's affair. A revelation has come into the mix that changes the picture. The jealousy here is a natural, understandable reaction to an actual event.

Suspicious jealousy - This one is driven by thoughts, distrust, and imagination rather than evidence. Think of Iago in Othello, drip-feeding Othello's mind with doubt until it consumes him. This kind of jealousy is the one most likely to drive behaviours like checking phones, monitoring a partner's whereabouts, or demanding reassurance that never quite satisfies.

Pathological jealousy - This is a more serious, clinical form that sits in the realm of mental health and requires professional support beyond what self-help can offer.

Most of us, most of the time, are working with reactive or suspicious jealousy. And for both of those, there is genuinely useful work to be done.

So, What Can You Actually Do?

Here's where it gets practical. Rather than fighting jealousy, suppressing it or letting it run riot, there's a middle path: meet it with curiosity.

Name it.

Just saying "I'm feeling jealous today" out loud, even if it’s just to yourself is more powerful than it sounds. It takes the feeling off the taboo shelf, brings it into the light and makes it workable. The aim is to treat it the way you might say "I feel a bit tired today" with lightness, compassion, not dread.

Get curious, not analytical.

Once you've named it, ask some gentle questions. What exactly am I jealous of? Is it the time? The attention? Something that feels like it's lacking in my own life? Jealousy is almost always pointing to an unmet need and when you get curious about what that is, you're suddenly working with something you can actually address.

Write it out.

Over the years I have found it extremely helpful to write down all the thoughts that I’m thinking, totally uncensored.  In the podcast I call it "vomiting on the page", writing down every thought, accusation, fear, and story that your jealousy is generating. Often this stage can involve uncomfortable emotions – allow them to flow too, unchecked.  Once I’m sure everything has been expressed I’ll take a break, take a breath, make a cup of tea, maybe even physically shake it all out before coming back to my writing. If you try this you too may find that much of what you wrote is the mind doing what minds do - creating drama, fear, hopelessness.  But at least it's now on the page where you can look at it clearly.

Question your thoughts.

Both Aileen and I are fans of a simple but disarming approach inspired by Byron Katie and the work of teacher Brad Brown among others: when a jealous thought arrives, ask yourself: is it true? Is it absolutely true? Is it false? Or don't I actually know?

That third option, "I don't know", is where the real freedom lives. When jealousy takes hold, it tends to speak in certainties. But so much of what it tells us is fabrication, fantasy, story. Sitting in the "don't know" is uncomfortable, but it's honest. And it leaves room for something other than catastrophe.

Talk to someone — the right someone.

Talking helps. But as Clare gently points out, you want a friend who will hold you without fuelling the fire. Someone who will let you have your thoughts and feelings, and then kindly ask whether you know the full picture. Someone who might say: "Why do you feel you'd deserve to be treated that way?" That's the kind of question that opens something up, rather than closing it down further.

A Small Exercise to Try

The next time you notice jealousy stirring, try this:

Pause before you act on it. Notice where you feel it in your body - tight chest, raised shoulders, clenched jaw, a heat in your face? Just notice.

Then, in a notebook, finish these sentences:

"I am feeling jealous because..."

"What I actually want here is..."

"Are these thoughts true, false, or don't know?"

You might be surprised at what comes up.

And Finally — Be Kind to Yourself

There's a thread running through this whole conversation that I return to at the end: forgiveness.

Jealousy doesn't come from nowhere. It often has roots in early experiences, in family dynamics, in things that happened long before this particular relationship or job or friendship. When it shows up, it's usually that old story being awoken in the present. You're not a jealous person. You're a person who, right now, got activated. This is totally understandable and forgivable.

You may say or do things you're not proud of when you're in the grip of it. That's human. The work, the real work, is in noticing, understanding, and gently, gradually, choosing a different response.

As Rumi put it in the poem Aileen references, The Guest House, every emotion that arrives is a guest. Let them in. They've come to show you something.

If this has stirred something whether curiosity, recognition, or something more I'd encourage you to listen to the full episode, and perhaps to sit with the journalling prompts above.

And if you'd like to find the Rumi poem Aileen mentions, do pop over to thesexandrelationshipspodcast.com — it's well worth a read.

Take care of yourself.

Clare x